The arabs from Arabia were conquerers and colonizers in Israel. After them came the Turks. The last colonizers after the Turks were - as at so many places - the British! They did not go wilfully and left behind a violent mess.
Jews fought for and claimed independence from these last colonizers of the land. This is called decolonization. Many people fought to decolonize, most of these countries are still traumatized and in a mess. Others never succeeded and live as decimated minorities on reserved designated pieces of their ancestral land.
The jews did succeed, and were willing to share their land with the descendants of the former colonizers in the new reality.
Those who accepted are now part of the only democracy in the middle east enjoying equal rights. Those who rejected have been exploited by their brothers for their own sickening gain until today.
I think you should consider replacing the word "Arab" with "Islamist" (not in every instance, but in most). There are plenty of Arab Israelis, Arab Christians and Arab Jews that live in Israel or elsewhere and are happy to accept that Israel exists.
The issue is radical Islam.
Hamas is a psychopathic, Jihadist death cult... as are Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp among others. Until the rest of the world (including moderate Muslims) call these bloodthirsty, psychopathic, misogynistic, murdering pederasts out for what they are and force a stop to their vile conduct, the problem is not going to go away. There will also always be weak minded fools who swallow these insidious regimes' subversive propaganda that attempts to flip the script and turn the perpetrators into the victims.
Hi Andy. I accept what you are saying. But we need to acknowledge that there is something wrong with Arab Muslim culture. Radical Islam is an extreme version yes, but even moderate Muslims have gender inequality, and believe anyone not a Muslim is not worthy. We need to be honest and call this stuff out.
Fair point, although it's not just Arab Muslims - Persian Muslims (Iranian), Turkish Muslims, Indonesian Muslims... the list goes on, all subjugate women. I'm not convinced moderate Muslims believe non-Muslims unworthy, some may, but (I would hope at least) they are more of a minority among the moderates... much like Christians that believe mankind started with Adam and Eve.
Incidentally (on another note), just saw you query on "must see" sites in Israel on another thread. I went there in 2019.
My recommendations are:
Masada;
David's waterfall (Ein Gedi);
Kalia beach (for a swim in the Dead Sea);
Basilica of the Annunciation (amongst other places) in Nazareth (if you're lucky and catch some the choir singing, it's a sublime experience);
I think that we need to be careful about blaming an entire religion for the bad behavior of some of its followers. This is not all that different from saying that British people living in Australia today are responsible for what the British colonialists did to the indigenous people of Australia. They are both damnation by group membership. I know that fellow atheist Sam Harris argues that Islam is a uniquely violent religion. I have also read a strong rebuttal to that thesis by Substack author Qasim Rashid.
I am no fan of religion, which has been used so many times to justify violence, murder, and war. My mother's family emigrated from Poland to the US, and I am deeply saddened by the history of wars in Poland, many of them religiously inspired. At the same time, I don't see how we can attribute causality for human misbehavior to religion itself. What is "religion itself?" Written scriptures (which have endless interpretations)? The declarations of religious authorities (who keep reinterpreting those scriptures)?
In the end, doesn't the behavior of a religious individual depend upon that individual's personal interpretation of their religion rather than "the religion itself" (whatever that means)? I don't think that we have to worry about Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) committing any acts of violence against anybody.
In the end, doesn't it make more sense to judge individuals as individuals rather than by their membership in a group?
Actually I think until we call out the fundamental issues with Islam and the dogmatic adherence to the Quran. It’s punitive rather than forgiving. And Muslims are told that following the book is more important than the laws of the land. Also apostasy is a huge issue in Muslim majority countries, punishable by imprisonment or death. That women are only worth half of a man. A women has to put out whenever her husbands demand - even if she is riding a camel. The fact the Muhammad married a 6 yo girl which is followed in many Muslim majority countries. 90% of Muslim girls in Egypt still suffer from genital mutilation for reasons of purity. Islam needs to have a reformation just like the church did hundreds of years ago.
The last wars instigated in the name of any other religion besides Islam (Irish troubles excluded) were several hundred years ago. You are correct in that it is only particular interpretations of Islam that tend toward violence and depravity, but it should also be noted that the central character in that religion was a warmonger and married a six-year-old child... Followers of the creator of a doctrine with those particular characteristics, are turning a blind eye to some pretty serious personality flaws. This trait of turning a blind eye is characteristic of practitioners of Islam. We get occasional platitudes from Muslim clerics, but rarely (if ever) do we see them really stand up and call out the perpetrators of terrorist acts committed in the name of Islam. Islam needs to clean up its own house. Only when enough of them call out the violence and depravity for what it is and draw a line in the sand saying this is not acceptable, will we start to see the tide turn. Practitioners of moderate Islam need to step up and call it out in order to counter the useful idiots on the far left that will not accept factual reality.
But Waleed Aly doesn’t support gender inequality, and his wife, a convert, would be offended to be accused of being a victim. I have two carers who are hijab wearing Muslim women -they are strong and determined and make the point that they have choices in Australia -if they didn’t accept Islamic teaching they could leave the relationship. ( And they certainly don’t accept the radical version of Islam that’s a perversion of the Prophet’s teaching, they say).
Your article has moved me to tears. From all that I know, all of it accurate and you could likely write for days. I don't understand the proliferation of psychopathy in the Arab world. It simply can't be in the name of Religion. But I've seen recent footage of young women ready to kill Jews coming from Gaza. I will not live to see the Jewish people free from such nonsensical hatred,but so wish it for Israel. Gazans will never know joy, as perhaps the Aboriginal people will. As difficult as this read was, thank you for it Kelli.
Beautifully written. Thank you for your voice. Because of people like you the truth will eventually be heard.
When the Jews fall so does that society. Our Ivy league schools will lose their credibility. Europe will either be run by Sharia law or be fighting a civil war.
I'm looking forward to an ally in our WH on Jan. 20.
Thank you CK. I certainly hope that I can make someone rethink their position. People are so oblivious to what is happening. I do believe that the truth always rises to the top eventually. Thank you for your support 🙏🏻
Kelli asks, "So why the double standard against Israel? Why are they told to go back where they came from, but I am not? Why aren’t there protests against Americans, colonising Native American Indian lands? Why are the Jews singled out?"
There is a larger question here, which is why Jews have been singled out for persecution and scapegoating all over the world for as long as recorded history? The accusation that they are colonizers who need to go back to where they came from is but one example of that pervasive, unfair persecution. The pervasiveness of antisemitism has bothered me all of my life. I just can't wrap my head around all of the hatred that has been directed toward Jews over the centuries. I wish that we could figure out this problem and solve it.
"Why are they told to go back where they came from, but I am not?" Listen closer to Senator Lidia Thorpe, Kelli - you ARE being told to go back where you came from.
Lidia Thorpe says it aloud, and is generally regarded as a nutter. More dangerous are those who work silently behind the scenes to achieve a similar outcome. ( OK, I’m paranoid. That doesn’t mean I’m wrong).
Brilliant exposition of historical facts. It is completely laughable for any American, Canadian, Australian or New Zealander to bitch about "Zionist colonizers" when they or their ancestors are/were colonizers par excellence. Not for nothing were states first called "colonies"
Dear Kelli, as much as all that you wrote is true, here is another „Double Standard“ which I never hardly anywhere find resumed, though it is a blatant one - -
- - the designated president of the USA has "warned" Hamas: if they do not hand over all hostages (if there are any still alive) by his inauguration, "all hell will break loose". Okay.
But why does he not say in the same breath - and why do his fans not call on him to do so? - to the criminal Putin: "By my inauguration, you filthy pig have to disappear completely from Ukraine, otherwise all hell will break loose? Otherwise the Kremlin will burn! Did you think that what the Islamic criminals of September 11 could do in the USA, we couldn't do in Russia?" -
You quote the UN resolution which explicitly gives Israel the right to establish such a state in the former "British Mandate“ - while you did not mention that there are several prerequisites named in that resolution for the establishment of any further state there, such as an independent judiciary, equal treatment and non-discrimination e.g. concerning gender or religion, sexual orientation etc. - i.e. „Western Standards“ (mainly a.o. going back to Jewish „contribution“ to „Western civilisation“) -, etc., all of which NEVER NOWHERE EXISTS in ANY state in the world with the glorious peace "religion", and which rather is in fact ("Cairo Declaration" 1990) EXPRESSLY REJECTED by all "Islamic" states gathered there, and THIS is the ONLY REASON WHY there CANNOT be a "Palestinian"-Arab state there: NOWHERE in the "discussion" does this appear... it thus is an EMPTY AIR "discussion", regardless of whether it is about the stupid "two-state solution" or something else.
But then, why is no one asking Trump to act in the SAME WAY towards Putin - a criminal for decades - as he did towards the Islamic-Arab criminals?
Why is there no mention here that there are ALSO treaties SIGNED BY RUSSIA that guarantee Ukraine the borders of the former "Ukrainian SSR" that have been in force for the independent state of Ukraine since 1991 ?
Ukraine, as the former third largest nuclear weapons state in the world, had given up all its weapons precisely FOR such GUARANTEES, signed by Russia, Germany, France, Great Britain, THAT NATO HAS TO STAND UP if the borders of Ukraine described in the treaties were VIOLATED!
Russia thus long ago HAS RECOGNIZED NATO's right to intervene in 1993/94, as well as the complete right of ALL former "Soviet" states to choose the military alliances they wish to join.
That includes: Ukraine and all its (Western) allies from the very beginning of Putins crime of invading Ukraine Feb 24 2022, had / HAVE the COMPLETE RIGHT to DEVASTATE COMPLETELY ALL of Putins „REICH“ completely until tat FILTHY PIG PUTIN is DEAD or SEIZED so that every citizen of the world can come by at The Hague where he should be at trial to smash that PIG in the FACE until he´s BLOODY DEAD.
I would be among the first to appear there.
WHY does COWARD „Trump“ not say anything like THIS ?
Why are his blatant „Double Standards“ left uncriticized ?
Even if Trump Fans prefer to yell that intervening in Ukraine and bombing that glorious Russia into HELL, should be „not in the interest of USA“, this is completely irrelevant ! WHY does ALSO THIS NO ONE tell to the world …??
The only thing that matters is that the USA (also) has to abide by its contractual obligations, according to which the USA, and the entire NATO, has to STAND UP for Ukraine!
This was not "invented by Zelensky“ - the inventions are rather completely on the side of Trump and his fans -, but rather the aforementioned states decided this TOGETHER after the collapse of the Soviet Empire in 1991-94, and it is still valid today.
But millions of egoistic/ mentally retarded "America First" Trump fans want to act as if this signed support from NATO states - AND Russia ITSELF!!! - against the violation of Ukraine's borders, which is recognized also by Russia, is something "new"? An allegedly inadmissible "interference by NATO" ...?! -
Why is THIS not being held against these moronic fascist Trump fans anywhere? Just as it is not being held against the fans of a so-called "Palestine" that a state of "Palestine" with STILL yet another totalitarian fascist "state religion of Islam" structure is IMPOSSIBLE ACCORDING TO signed treaties and UN resolutions?
Why these DOUBLE STANDARDS from Trump fans and ALLEGED "friends of Israel" towards Ukraine, towards Donny T. and his FRIEND Putin, the Iran supporter ...?
If one does not remain fundamentally honest and straightforward, but simply fends off hints of blatant (self-)contradictions, it will eventually backfire on everyone involved, unfortunately also on Israel, sooner or later.
It’s reprehensible that Ukraine has become old news. No one is protesting for Ukraine. No one is pushing for a ceasefire for Ukraine. We all know that Trump is somehow tied up with the Russians. So it’s going to be curious to see how this plays out.
I don't think "we all know that Trump is somehow tied up with the Russians". There were two fairly extensive investigations that found nothing. People can keep on saying things like that - it doesn't make them true.
Trump's public way of dealing with authoritarian thugs can be hard to take - but from a policy perspective, his administration was harder on Putin, Kim, Xi etc than any other before or since. It's very much a case of looking at what he does, versus what he says. Remember, it was Obama promising the policy "reset" with Russia; remember "the 80's called, they want their foreign policy back"?
But it IS reprehensible that Ukraine has become old news, and there's an idealistic part of me that wishes Trump would do the same to Putin as he has just done with Hamas. And a proven strong approach may yet have the desired effect. However, there's a realistic (realpolitik, if you like) part of me that says, "Putin has nuclear weapons - so needs a slightly different gameplan than that used for two-bit murderous hoodlums."
It would be galling, and unjust, if Putin walks away with ANY of Ukraine - but that may be the outcome. The upside is that his military is smashed - utterly crushed. Not only shown to be incapable of executing a mission, but now stripped of materiel and ammunition, the Soviet stocks gone, and the economy too bankrupt to replace them. And if the final result is Ukraine in NATO, and NATO with a strengthened resolve and equipment, and a firm and defended border at the Russian frontier.... on balance, maybe the best result that they could achieve.
He is doing the right thing with Israel. He’s doing the wrong thing with Ukraine.
I’m not privy to the exact history, but Trump has an apparent admiration of Putin, which is highly unfortunate and totally inconsistent with American values and what should be American support for a democratic nation fighting for its freedom and independence.
I think he's doing the right thing: I think we should at least attempt to have peace. If Trump can pursuade Putin to make some kind of deal, then what's wrong with that? Putin has more Nuclear weapons than the rest of the world put together, and we are sitting ducks here in UK.
You named it; but if it was only Trump`s admiration, it wouldn´t matter that much - but it´s the majority of his voters' preferences and their selfishness ("America First") which is not only inappropriate for such a great nation, but also irrealistic - but he won votes with this ... Here you find more or less most of the treaties and background that are destined to guarantee and defend Ukraine`s state : https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/european-issues/344-russia-ukraine-and-international-law
So what is the answer? I certainly dont belong in Ireland.
The arabs from Arabia were conquerers and colonizers in Israel. After them came the Turks. The last colonizers after the Turks were - as at so many places - the British! They did not go wilfully and left behind a violent mess.
Jews fought for and claimed independence from these last colonizers of the land. This is called decolonization. Many people fought to decolonize, most of these countries are still traumatized and in a mess. Others never succeeded and live as decimated minorities on reserved designated pieces of their ancestral land.
The jews did succeed, and were willing to share their land with the descendants of the former colonizers in the new reality.
Those who accepted are now part of the only democracy in the middle east enjoying equal rights. Those who rejected have been exploited by their brothers for their own sickening gain until today.
Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Excellent article Kelli. Succinct and profound.
Thank you Anne ☺️🤍
I think you should consider replacing the word "Arab" with "Islamist" (not in every instance, but in most). There are plenty of Arab Israelis, Arab Christians and Arab Jews that live in Israel or elsewhere and are happy to accept that Israel exists.
The issue is radical Islam.
Hamas is a psychopathic, Jihadist death cult... as are Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp among others. Until the rest of the world (including moderate Muslims) call these bloodthirsty, psychopathic, misogynistic, murdering pederasts out for what they are and force a stop to their vile conduct, the problem is not going to go away. There will also always be weak minded fools who swallow these insidious regimes' subversive propaganda that attempts to flip the script and turn the perpetrators into the victims.
Hi Andy. I accept what you are saying. But we need to acknowledge that there is something wrong with Arab Muslim culture. Radical Islam is an extreme version yes, but even moderate Muslims have gender inequality, and believe anyone not a Muslim is not worthy. We need to be honest and call this stuff out.
Fair point, although it's not just Arab Muslims - Persian Muslims (Iranian), Turkish Muslims, Indonesian Muslims... the list goes on, all subjugate women. I'm not convinced moderate Muslims believe non-Muslims unworthy, some may, but (I would hope at least) they are more of a minority among the moderates... much like Christians that believe mankind started with Adam and Eve.
Incidentally (on another note), just saw you query on "must see" sites in Israel on another thread. I went there in 2019.
My recommendations are:
Masada;
David's waterfall (Ein Gedi);
Kalia beach (for a swim in the Dead Sea);
Basilica of the Annunciation (amongst other places) in Nazareth (if you're lucky and catch some the choir singing, it's a sublime experience);
Capernaum (town of Jesus);
Yardenit (baptismal site on the Jordan River);
Old city Jerusalem;
Yad Vashem.
Agree with you Andy. Islam is the problem. Thank you for the list ☺️
I think that we need to be careful about blaming an entire religion for the bad behavior of some of its followers. This is not all that different from saying that British people living in Australia today are responsible for what the British colonialists did to the indigenous people of Australia. They are both damnation by group membership. I know that fellow atheist Sam Harris argues that Islam is a uniquely violent religion. I have also read a strong rebuttal to that thesis by Substack author Qasim Rashid.
I am no fan of religion, which has been used so many times to justify violence, murder, and war. My mother's family emigrated from Poland to the US, and I am deeply saddened by the history of wars in Poland, many of them religiously inspired. At the same time, I don't see how we can attribute causality for human misbehavior to religion itself. What is "religion itself?" Written scriptures (which have endless interpretations)? The declarations of religious authorities (who keep reinterpreting those scriptures)?
In the end, doesn't the behavior of a religious individual depend upon that individual's personal interpretation of their religion rather than "the religion itself" (whatever that means)? I don't think that we have to worry about Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) committing any acts of violence against anybody.
In the end, doesn't it make more sense to judge individuals as individuals rather than by their membership in a group?
Actually I think until we call out the fundamental issues with Islam and the dogmatic adherence to the Quran. It’s punitive rather than forgiving. And Muslims are told that following the book is more important than the laws of the land. Also apostasy is a huge issue in Muslim majority countries, punishable by imprisonment or death. That women are only worth half of a man. A women has to put out whenever her husbands demand - even if she is riding a camel. The fact the Muhammad married a 6 yo girl which is followed in many Muslim majority countries. 90% of Muslim girls in Egypt still suffer from genital mutilation for reasons of purity. Islam needs to have a reformation just like the church did hundreds of years ago.
The last wars instigated in the name of any other religion besides Islam (Irish troubles excluded) were several hundred years ago. You are correct in that it is only particular interpretations of Islam that tend toward violence and depravity, but it should also be noted that the central character in that religion was a warmonger and married a six-year-old child... Followers of the creator of a doctrine with those particular characteristics, are turning a blind eye to some pretty serious personality flaws. This trait of turning a blind eye is characteristic of practitioners of Islam. We get occasional platitudes from Muslim clerics, but rarely (if ever) do we see them really stand up and call out the perpetrators of terrorist acts committed in the name of Islam. Islam needs to clean up its own house. Only when enough of them call out the violence and depravity for what it is and draw a line in the sand saying this is not acceptable, will we start to see the tide turn. Practitioners of moderate Islam need to step up and call it out in order to counter the useful idiots on the far left that will not accept factual reality.
But Waleed Aly doesn’t support gender inequality, and his wife, a convert, would be offended to be accused of being a victim. I have two carers who are hijab wearing Muslim women -they are strong and determined and make the point that they have choices in Australia -if they didn’t accept Islamic teaching they could leave the relationship. ( And they certainly don’t accept the radical version of Islam that’s a perversion of the Prophet’s teaching, they say).
More excellence.
Thank you, Kelli.
Sharing.
Thank you Rob.
The Jews have the oldest written extant deed in the world. Whether you believe in God or not, the boundaries given to Abraham are clearly laid out.
Your article has moved me to tears. From all that I know, all of it accurate and you could likely write for days. I don't understand the proliferation of psychopathy in the Arab world. It simply can't be in the name of Religion. But I've seen recent footage of young women ready to kill Jews coming from Gaza. I will not live to see the Jewish people free from such nonsensical hatred,but so wish it for Israel. Gazans will never know joy, as perhaps the Aboriginal people will. As difficult as this read was, thank you for it Kelli.
Thank you so much Brenda. I appreciate your words more than you know. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🤍
Beautifully written. Thank you for your voice. Because of people like you the truth will eventually be heard.
When the Jews fall so does that society. Our Ivy league schools will lose their credibility. Europe will either be run by Sharia law or be fighting a civil war.
I'm looking forward to an ally in our WH on Jan. 20.
Thank you CK. I certainly hope that I can make someone rethink their position. People are so oblivious to what is happening. I do believe that the truth always rises to the top eventually. Thank you for your support 🙏🏻
“But the world stays silent. Why?”
Because the world likes to go after Jews. Always has and, sadly, always will.
Yep
Very good article Kelli. Your loyalty and courage in speaking up for Israel is laudable. Bless you.
Kelli asks, "So why the double standard against Israel? Why are they told to go back where they came from, but I am not? Why aren’t there protests against Americans, colonising Native American Indian lands? Why are the Jews singled out?"
There is a larger question here, which is why Jews have been singled out for persecution and scapegoating all over the world for as long as recorded history? The accusation that they are colonizers who need to go back to where they came from is but one example of that pervasive, unfair persecution. The pervasiveness of antisemitism has bothered me all of my life. I just can't wrap my head around all of the hatred that has been directed toward Jews over the centuries. I wish that we could figure out this problem and solve it.
Me too.
Think you, Kelli. You have a clearer view of what’s happening than most.
"Why are they told to go back where they came from, but I am not?" Listen closer to Senator Lidia Thorpe, Kelli - you ARE being told to go back where you came from.
One of the brightest lights in "Settler Colonial" theory was Australian academic Patrick Wolfe, generally credited with founding it as a field of study. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_colonialism#:~:text=Writing%20in%20the%201990s%2C%20the,distinguishing%20it%20from%20classical%20colonialism.)
It's still a major field in the Australian academy (e.g. https://www.e-ir.info/2021/04/25/settler-colonial-continuity-and-the-ongoing-suffering-of-indigenous-australians/)
Jonah Goldberg always says, "behind every confessed double standard there is an unconfessed single standard". Still true.
Lidia Thorpe says it aloud, and is generally regarded as a nutter. More dangerous are those who work silently behind the scenes to achieve a similar outcome. ( OK, I’m paranoid. That doesn’t mean I’m wrong).
I make one comment regarding your "double standards", in Trump's defense, that is "pick your battles"!
Brilliant exposition of historical facts. It is completely laughable for any American, Canadian, Australian or New Zealander to bitch about "Zionist colonizers" when they or their ancestors are/were colonizers par excellence. Not for nothing were states first called "colonies"
Great work Kelli
עם ישראל חי 🇮🇱
Dear Kelli, as much as all that you wrote is true, here is another „Double Standard“ which I never hardly anywhere find resumed, though it is a blatant one - -
- - the designated president of the USA has "warned" Hamas: if they do not hand over all hostages (if there are any still alive) by his inauguration, "all hell will break loose". Okay.
But why does he not say in the same breath - and why do his fans not call on him to do so? - to the criminal Putin: "By my inauguration, you filthy pig have to disappear completely from Ukraine, otherwise all hell will break loose? Otherwise the Kremlin will burn! Did you think that what the Islamic criminals of September 11 could do in the USA, we couldn't do in Russia?" -
You quote the UN resolution which explicitly gives Israel the right to establish such a state in the former "British Mandate“ - while you did not mention that there are several prerequisites named in that resolution for the establishment of any further state there, such as an independent judiciary, equal treatment and non-discrimination e.g. concerning gender or religion, sexual orientation etc. - i.e. „Western Standards“ (mainly a.o. going back to Jewish „contribution“ to „Western civilisation“) -, etc., all of which NEVER NOWHERE EXISTS in ANY state in the world with the glorious peace "religion", and which rather is in fact ("Cairo Declaration" 1990) EXPRESSLY REJECTED by all "Islamic" states gathered there, and THIS is the ONLY REASON WHY there CANNOT be a "Palestinian"-Arab state there: NOWHERE in the "discussion" does this appear... it thus is an EMPTY AIR "discussion", regardless of whether it is about the stupid "two-state solution" or something else.
But then, why is no one asking Trump to act in the SAME WAY towards Putin - a criminal for decades - as he did towards the Islamic-Arab criminals?
Why is there no mention here that there are ALSO treaties SIGNED BY RUSSIA that guarantee Ukraine the borders of the former "Ukrainian SSR" that have been in force for the independent state of Ukraine since 1991 ?
Ukraine, as the former third largest nuclear weapons state in the world, had given up all its weapons precisely FOR such GUARANTEES, signed by Russia, Germany, France, Great Britain, THAT NATO HAS TO STAND UP if the borders of Ukraine described in the treaties were VIOLATED!
Russia thus long ago HAS RECOGNIZED NATO's right to intervene in 1993/94, as well as the complete right of ALL former "Soviet" states to choose the military alliances they wish to join.
That includes: Ukraine and all its (Western) allies from the very beginning of Putins crime of invading Ukraine Feb 24 2022, had / HAVE the COMPLETE RIGHT to DEVASTATE COMPLETELY ALL of Putins „REICH“ completely until tat FILTHY PIG PUTIN is DEAD or SEIZED so that every citizen of the world can come by at The Hague where he should be at trial to smash that PIG in the FACE until he´s BLOODY DEAD.
I would be among the first to appear there.
WHY does COWARD „Trump“ not say anything like THIS ?
Why are his blatant „Double Standards“ left uncriticized ?
Even if Trump Fans prefer to yell that intervening in Ukraine and bombing that glorious Russia into HELL, should be „not in the interest of USA“, this is completely irrelevant ! WHY does ALSO THIS NO ONE tell to the world …??
The only thing that matters is that the USA (also) has to abide by its contractual obligations, according to which the USA, and the entire NATO, has to STAND UP for Ukraine!
This was not "invented by Zelensky“ - the inventions are rather completely on the side of Trump and his fans -, but rather the aforementioned states decided this TOGETHER after the collapse of the Soviet Empire in 1991-94, and it is still valid today.
But millions of egoistic/ mentally retarded "America First" Trump fans want to act as if this signed support from NATO states - AND Russia ITSELF!!! - against the violation of Ukraine's borders, which is recognized also by Russia, is something "new"? An allegedly inadmissible "interference by NATO" ...?! -
Why is THIS not being held against these moronic fascist Trump fans anywhere? Just as it is not being held against the fans of a so-called "Palestine" that a state of "Palestine" with STILL yet another totalitarian fascist "state religion of Islam" structure is IMPOSSIBLE ACCORDING TO signed treaties and UN resolutions?
Why these DOUBLE STANDARDS from Trump fans and ALLEGED "friends of Israel" towards Ukraine, towards Donny T. and his FRIEND Putin, the Iran supporter ...?
If one does not remain fundamentally honest and straightforward, but simply fends off hints of blatant (self-)contradictions, it will eventually backfire on everyone involved, unfortunately also on Israel, sooner or later.
It’s reprehensible that Ukraine has become old news. No one is protesting for Ukraine. No one is pushing for a ceasefire for Ukraine. We all know that Trump is somehow tied up with the Russians. So it’s going to be curious to see how this plays out.
I don't think "we all know that Trump is somehow tied up with the Russians". There were two fairly extensive investigations that found nothing. People can keep on saying things like that - it doesn't make them true.
Trump's public way of dealing with authoritarian thugs can be hard to take - but from a policy perspective, his administration was harder on Putin, Kim, Xi etc than any other before or since. It's very much a case of looking at what he does, versus what he says. Remember, it was Obama promising the policy "reset" with Russia; remember "the 80's called, they want their foreign policy back"?
But it IS reprehensible that Ukraine has become old news, and there's an idealistic part of me that wishes Trump would do the same to Putin as he has just done with Hamas. And a proven strong approach may yet have the desired effect. However, there's a realistic (realpolitik, if you like) part of me that says, "Putin has nuclear weapons - so needs a slightly different gameplan than that used for two-bit murderous hoodlums."
It would be galling, and unjust, if Putin walks away with ANY of Ukraine - but that may be the outcome. The upside is that his military is smashed - utterly crushed. Not only shown to be incapable of executing a mission, but now stripped of materiel and ammunition, the Soviet stocks gone, and the economy too bankrupt to replace them. And if the final result is Ukraine in NATO, and NATO with a strengthened resolve and equipment, and a firm and defended border at the Russian frontier.... on balance, maybe the best result that they could achieve.
Truth is I don’t know enough about the Trump/Russia thing to comment. But yes his foreign policy in his last term was strong.
It is a double standard on Trump‘s part.
He is doing the right thing with Israel. He’s doing the wrong thing with Ukraine.
I’m not privy to the exact history, but Trump has an apparent admiration of Putin, which is highly unfortunate and totally inconsistent with American values and what should be American support for a democratic nation fighting for its freedom and independence.
I think he's doing the right thing: I think we should at least attempt to have peace. If Trump can pursuade Putin to make some kind of deal, then what's wrong with that? Putin has more Nuclear weapons than the rest of the world put together, and we are sitting ducks here in UK.
You named it; but if it was only Trump`s admiration, it wouldn´t matter that much - but it´s the majority of his voters' preferences and their selfishness ("America First") which is not only inappropriate for such a great nation, but also irrealistic - but he won votes with this ... Here you find more or less most of the treaties and background that are destined to guarantee and defend Ukraine`s state : https://www.robert-schuman.eu/en/european-issues/344-russia-ukraine-and-international-law